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	<description>Reflections on social enteRob Greenland&#039;s blog on changing the world through social entrepreneurship</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mowatt</title>
		<link>http://www.thesocialbusiness.co.uk/blog/2010/07/big-mediocrity/comment-page-1/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, Essentially all surplus revenue remains in the company or is used to fund the Ukraine mission. Work in the UK, so far is investment of surplus labour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, Essentially all surplus revenue remains in the company or is used to fund the Ukraine mission. Work in the UK, so far is investment of surplus labour.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Temple</title>
		<link>http://www.thesocialbusiness.co.uk/blog/2010/07/big-mediocrity/comment-page-1/#comment-2081</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Temple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so the UK arm is a PLC software devt firm, which dividends any profits to a) local UK projects and b) the original project trying to re-start in Ukraine? That&#039;s helpful and a bit clearer, Jeff. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so the UK arm is a PLC software devt firm, which dividends any profits to a) local UK projects and b) the original project trying to re-start in Ukraine? That&#8217;s helpful and a bit clearer, Jeff. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mowatt</title>
		<link>http://www.thesocialbusiness.co.uk/blog/2010/07/big-mediocrity/comment-page-1/#comment-2080</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, By &quot;disaster movie&quot; I meant some of the operational problems including attempts to hijack our work. First from an aspiring politician and then by an oligarch. The real horror however being the plight of disabled children who are dumped into homes where as much as 80% of state support is siphoned by &#039;private interests&#039;. When the first hijack attempt was thwarted a lot of rather unpleasant commentary was published with the author&#039;s identity protected by a UK barrister. 

The strategy paper delivered in 2006 was to produce several positive outcomes including the doubling of adoption allowances and a promise of 400+ rehab centres. Our proposal was to help leverage US support if government would demonstrate a commitment to social change.

Rather than supporting the social enterprise investment fund however, US response came in the form of a new foundation which attempted to promote CSR activity which would deliver the rehab centres. They don&#039;t seem to have been very successful. We meanwhile continue to lobby US government for funds that would enable around 10 model homes/rehab centres. Why the British Council have shown up recently isn&#039;t all that clear. We&#039;ve developed a network of local activists on the ground who for their own safety in the increasingly authoritarian environment, can&#039;t be identified.   

What we do in the UK is generate 100% the core operations funding from software development and maintenance together with smaller scale community development work. It&#039;s been frugal but we&#039;ve kept it going for 6 years.

Pretty much all of this can be found on one of our web pages, describing services. I&#039;d posted a link to this here, back in July, but the post is still awaiting moderation.

Jeff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, By &#8220;disaster movie&#8221; I meant some of the operational problems including attempts to hijack our work. First from an aspiring politician and then by an oligarch. The real horror however being the plight of disabled children who are dumped into homes where as much as 80% of state support is siphoned by &#8216;private interests&#8217;. When the first hijack attempt was thwarted a lot of rather unpleasant commentary was published with the author&#8217;s identity protected by a UK barrister. </p>
<p>The strategy paper delivered in 2006 was to produce several positive outcomes including the doubling of adoption allowances and a promise of 400+ rehab centres. Our proposal was to help leverage US support if government would demonstrate a commitment to social change.</p>
<p>Rather than supporting the social enterprise investment fund however, US response came in the form of a new foundation which attempted to promote CSR activity which would deliver the rehab centres. They don&#8217;t seem to have been very successful. We meanwhile continue to lobby US government for funds that would enable around 10 model homes/rehab centres. Why the British Council have shown up recently isn&#8217;t all that clear. We&#8217;ve developed a network of local activists on the ground who for their own safety in the increasingly authoritarian environment, can&#8217;t be identified.   </p>
<p>What we do in the UK is generate 100% the core operations funding from software development and maintenance together with smaller scale community development work. It&#8217;s been frugal but we&#8217;ve kept it going for 6 years.</p>
<p>Pretty much all of this can be found on one of our web pages, describing services. I&#8217;d posted a link to this here, back in July, but the post is still awaiting moderation.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Temple</title>
		<link>http://www.thesocialbusiness.co.uk/blog/2010/07/big-mediocrity/comment-page-1/#comment-2072</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Temple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - thanks for being such a valued and regular reader, though where the &quot;disaster movie&quot; stuff comes from, I&#039;m not wholly sure.

Do let us know how P-CED are contributing to tackling the core issues on the ground, as opposed to all those PR merchants? Be fascinated to learn about the UK activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; thanks for being such a valued and regular reader, though where the &#8220;disaster movie&#8221; stuff comes from, I&#8217;m not wholly sure.</p>
<p>Do let us know how P-CED are contributing to tackling the core issues on the ground, as opposed to all those PR merchants? Be fascinated to learn about the UK activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Temple</title>
		<link>http://www.thesocialbusiness.co.uk/blog/2010/07/big-mediocrity/comment-page-1/#comment-2071</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Temple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 14:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I largely agree, Rob. We all know of third sector organisations that don&#039;t deliver, don&#039;t prove their making a difference, are utterly dependent, ineffective and so on. I&#039;d be happily rid of some of them, and we encourage everyone going through the SSE programme to not be over-reliant on one source of finance, to prove + measure their impact, and to under-promise and over-deliver (not the other way round, as Liam highlights often happens), to sort out what they need from a team / board and so forth. Liam&#039;s generalised analysis is not far off the mark, albeit with a fair few excellent exceptions, and we&#039;ve got to try and help change that situation across the board. I&#039;ve banged on about the reality behind the rhetoric for some time now.

The real challenge in the current climate, from what we are seeing and hearing, is what Patrick highlights: that there&#039;s no (or little) rationale / strategic analysis behind those who are being cut / being chosen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I largely agree, Rob. We all know of third sector organisations that don&#8217;t deliver, don&#8217;t prove their making a difference, are utterly dependent, ineffective and so on. I&#8217;d be happily rid of some of them, and we encourage everyone going through the SSE programme to not be over-reliant on one source of finance, to prove + measure their impact, and to under-promise and over-deliver (not the other way round, as Liam highlights often happens), to sort out what they need from a team / board and so forth. Liam&#8217;s generalised analysis is not far off the mark, albeit with a fair few excellent exceptions, and we&#8217;ve got to try and help change that situation across the board. I&#8217;ve banged on about the reality behind the rhetoric for some time now.</p>
<p>The real challenge in the current climate, from what we are seeing and hearing, is what Patrick highlights: that there&#8217;s no (or little) rationale / strategic analysis behind those who are being cut / being chosen.</p>
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		<title>By: David Floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.thesocialbusiness.co.uk/blog/2010/07/big-mediocrity/comment-page-1/#comment-1715</link>
		<dc:creator>David Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

I certainly agree with you that massive cuts in public spending are going to take out loads of good social enterprises as well as loads of less good ones. 

On the &#039;how can they tell&#039; point - this is another reason why it&#039;s a big shame that the Social Enterprise Mark was not conceived as a proper kitemark providing commissioners with meaningful information on a social enterprise&#039;s ability to deliver services. 

It&#039;s not too late for the Mark team to reconsider and turn their project into something that&#039;s actually useful to social enterprises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>I certainly agree with you that massive cuts in public spending are going to take out loads of good social enterprises as well as loads of less good ones. </p>
<p>On the &#8216;how can they tell&#8217; point &#8211; this is another reason why it&#8217;s a big shame that the Social Enterprise Mark was not conceived as a proper kitemark providing commissioners with meaningful information on a social enterprise&#8217;s ability to deliver services. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not too late for the Mark team to reconsider and turn their project into something that&#8217;s actually useful to social enterprises.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mowatt</title>
		<link>http://www.thesocialbusiness.co.uk/blog/2010/07/big-mediocrity/comment-page-1/#comment-1696</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s an interesting perception Patrick on the faith based freemarket position that &quot;the strong will thrive&quot;. For us this was in fact a starting point in a critique of laissez-faire capitalism, arguing that it accepts the principle that part of humanity should perish.

I don&#039;t think any of us here are advocates for increasing the number of grant funded social enterprises, rather the deployment of sustainable business which delivers a social outcome. On the other hand, I&#039;ll put my hand up to arguing the case for social enterprise being funded for defence insdustry security clearance as a reasonable alternative to claiming unemployment benefit.    

Those in financial difficulty will naturally be constrained in their social impact, yet they still contribute a social function, when compared say to an anti-social enterprise like human trafficking with an overall negative contribution.

We can to some extent qualify the intent, for example with qualification criteria such as those of &#039;SEE What you are buying into&#039; where anti-social enterprise can be filtered out, but not the extent to which we&#039;re better at doing it than any other, if indeed any other is doing it.

In the Bill Gates perception of Creative Capitalism he sees the demand for a business being a reflection of the social outcome, yet as we all know those with the biggest PR budget will flourisn by this token.

Even the no loss no dividend approach proposed by Yunus may not be the most effective in what it achieves, but then it can&#039;t really do that much harm either unless perhaps it undermines other grassroots economic development.

What I&#039;m fearful of is that impact measurment become some form of freemason ring, as a closed circle, &#039;doing good on your behalf because we&#039;ve agreed that we do it best&#039;

I&#039;m not a fan of social enterprise in healthcare. We&#039;ve already got a local case under investigation by auditors and with an organisation already having a 100% commitment to social outcomes, it&#039;s difficult to make the case for this to be diminished for the sake of freemarket ideology, where perhaps 35% might be returned to private investors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s an interesting perception Patrick on the faith based freemarket position that &#8220;the strong will thrive&#8221;. For us this was in fact a starting point in a critique of laissez-faire capitalism, arguing that it accepts the principle that part of humanity should perish.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think any of us here are advocates for increasing the number of grant funded social enterprises, rather the deployment of sustainable business which delivers a social outcome. On the other hand, I&#8217;ll put my hand up to arguing the case for social enterprise being funded for defence insdustry security clearance as a reasonable alternative to claiming unemployment benefit.    </p>
<p>Those in financial difficulty will naturally be constrained in their social impact, yet they still contribute a social function, when compared say to an anti-social enterprise like human trafficking with an overall negative contribution.</p>
<p>We can to some extent qualify the intent, for example with qualification criteria such as those of &#8216;SEE What you are buying into&#8217; where anti-social enterprise can be filtered out, but not the extent to which we&#8217;re better at doing it than any other, if indeed any other is doing it.</p>
<p>In the Bill Gates perception of Creative Capitalism he sees the demand for a business being a reflection of the social outcome, yet as we all know those with the biggest PR budget will flourisn by this token.</p>
<p>Even the no loss no dividend approach proposed by Yunus may not be the most effective in what it achieves, but then it can&#8217;t really do that much harm either unless perhaps it undermines other grassroots economic development.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m fearful of is that impact measurment become some form of freemason ring, as a closed circle, &#8216;doing good on your behalf because we&#8217;ve agreed that we do it best&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of social enterprise in healthcare. We&#8217;ve already got a local case under investigation by auditors and with an organisation already having a 100% commitment to social outcomes, it&#8217;s difficult to make the case for this to be diminished for the sake of freemarket ideology, where perhaps 35% might be returned to private investors.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Butler</title>
		<link>http://www.thesocialbusiness.co.uk/blog/2010/07/big-mediocrity/comment-page-1/#comment-1695</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Rob. But how can we tell which are the mediocre social enterprises and which are the good ones? And more to the point, how can local authority and NHS commissioners tell, and even if they can, what will they do about it? What I&#039;m picking up is that even good third sector organisations which can demonstrate positive impact and value for money are getting their funding cut, sometimes fatally. I&#039;m really not sure I share your optimism that the social enterprise sector is going to be put through a rational process of strategic analysis and detailed outcomes measurement  by local commissioners. &quot;The strong will thrive, the rest won&#039;t&quot;: strikes me as a kind of faith-based social freemarket position. The reality of the shake-out I suspect will be a bit more complicated. I&#039;m hearing complaints of municipal panic, politicking and and protectionism. The good will also fail - and i&#039;m not sure a localist government has the inclination to do too much about it.
Patrick
(Head of society, health and education, The Guardian)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jul/23/charity-cuts-big-society</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Rob. But how can we tell which are the mediocre social enterprises and which are the good ones? And more to the point, how can local authority and NHS commissioners tell, and even if they can, what will they do about it? What I&#8217;m picking up is that even good third sector organisations which can demonstrate positive impact and value for money are getting their funding cut, sometimes fatally. I&#8217;m really not sure I share your optimism that the social enterprise sector is going to be put through a rational process of strategic analysis and detailed outcomes measurement  by local commissioners. &#8220;The strong will thrive, the rest won&#8217;t&#8221;: strikes me as a kind of faith-based social freemarket position. The reality of the shake-out I suspect will be a bit more complicated. I&#8217;m hearing complaints of municipal panic, politicking and and protectionism. The good will also fail &#8211; and i&#8217;m not sure a localist government has the inclination to do too much about it.<br />
Patrick<br />
(Head of society, health and education, The Guardian)<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jul/23/charity-cuts-big-society" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jul/23/charity-cuts-big-society</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with most of what Liam&#039;s saying in terms of the current state of social enterprise. 

Recent developments suggest that the coalition doesn&#039;t really think the currently existing social enterprise movement - as opposed to bits of councils and the health service that theoretically become social enterprises - is really the major vehicle for delivering most of their cuts and outsourcing agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with most of what Liam&#8217;s saying in terms of the current state of social enterprise. </p>
<p>Recent developments suggest that the coalition doesn&#8217;t really think the currently existing social enterprise movement &#8211; as opposed to bits of councils and the health service that theoretically become social enterprises &#8211; is really the major vehicle for delivering most of their cuts and outsourcing agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Mowatt</title>
		<link>http://www.thesocialbusiness.co.uk/blog/2010/07/big-mediocrity/comment-page-1/#comment-1670</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Mowatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, What I think we&#039;ve agreed on above is that this is not what has happened so far, with government endorsing showcases which fail to meet the messianic impact promised by the PR hyperbole.

Politician advocates have used social enterprise to enhance their own reputation to the detriment of those actively engaged.

Arriving behind them now are the venture capitalist changing their spots to &quot;invent&quot; what&#039;s been public domain for the last decade. Join me on Linkedin for &#039;Social Business and For Benefit corporations&#039; and you&#039;ll see at first hand how reticent these new social investors are to talk to those committed to social enterprise.

We end up with a PR pantomime of franchised social innovation under competing banners, while social enterprise is diluted into comfortable delegated projects which skirt around the core issues they haven&#039;t got the spine to tackle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, What I think we&#8217;ve agreed on above is that this is not what has happened so far, with government endorsing showcases which fail to meet the messianic impact promised by the PR hyperbole.</p>
<p>Politician advocates have used social enterprise to enhance their own reputation to the detriment of those actively engaged.</p>
<p>Arriving behind them now are the venture capitalist changing their spots to &#8220;invent&#8221; what&#8217;s been public domain for the last decade. Join me on Linkedin for &#8216;Social Business and For Benefit corporations&#8217; and you&#8217;ll see at first hand how reticent these new social investors are to talk to those committed to social enterprise.</p>
<p>We end up with a PR pantomime of franchised social innovation under competing banners, while social enterprise is diluted into comfortable delegated projects which skirt around the core issues they haven&#8217;t got the spine to tackle.</p>
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